NEWS CENTER- KCK Executive Council Co-Chair Cemil Bayık made evaluations to ANF. Bayık made evaluations on the anniversary of the establishment of the PKK and said, “Understanding the PKK is possible by understanding Rêber Apo in all its aspects. Someone who has an understanding of freedom for his people and for himself, must understand the reality of Rêber Apo in every aspect, transform, deepen and rebuild himself based on this reality so that he can develop freedom in himself and his people.” said.
The first part of the interview with KCK Executive Council Co-chair Cemil Bayık is as follows;
What are the main features of the PKK?
The characteristics of the PKK are those of Rêber Apo. For this reason, we cannot consider the PKK and Rêber Apo in isolation from each other. Maybe all the characteristics of Rêber Apo may not have been fully developed in PKK militants, but this does not mean that the characteristics of Rêber Apo and the PKK are different. Understanding the PKK is possible by understanding Rêber Apo in all its aspects. Someone who has an understanding of freedom for his people and for himself, must understand the reality of Rêber Apo in every aspect, transform, deepen and rebuild himself based on this reality so that he can develop freedom in himself and his people. Creating oneself along the lines of Rêber Apo means developing the meaning of solution. If he creates this power in himself, he can understand problems and develop solutions. Understanding and solving the problem means development and success. This means freedom.
His historical consciousness is very deep
Rêber Apo’s main feature is his awareness of history. His historical consciousness is very deep. So he drew many conclusions from history. Upon this, the PKK was founded and developed. If his historical consciousness had not been so deep, he could not have built the PKK in a different way. The PKK would be like other parties. Whatever happened to these parties would also happen to the PKK. We see that the PKK has always developed, progressed and succeeded since its establishment. It built many values. He built this not only for the Kurdish people, but for the people of the Middle East and humanity. For this reason, humanity takes Rêber Apo, the PKK and the Kurdish people as its basis and example in its struggle for freedom. Since Rêber Apo is well-versed in history, he founded the PKK on the history, reality and root of Kurdish society. Rêber Apo said, “We are hidden at the beginning of history, history also speaks today.” This shows that it draws conclusions from the events in history, it is based on the things that humanity has developed and that serve humanity. It also develops what can be done with it. Thus, it unites the beginning and the end. It does this today too. In other words, what is happening today is both what happened in history and what will happen. Based on this, there is the revolutionism developed by Rêber Apo; It’s called the revolution of the moment. The revolutionary of the moment is the revolution based on history. It is based on both the past history and the history to be lived. He does it daily. This is the greatest revolution. Such a revolution can be the answer in Kurdistan, otherwise it is not possible. We can see this well in the history of Rêber Apo and the PKK. Rêber Apo created himself entirely on this basis and developed PKK militancy. On this basis, combat was developed. Therefore, there has always been success and progress. In the revolution of the moment, there is constant progress in purpose, line, and principle. This prevents a break from purpose, lines and principles. This also prevents clogging. It makes you flow like a water, makes you alive, renews. No matter what kind of obstacles come in the way of such a movement, it can stand up to these obstacles, produce solutions and achieve success. This can be seen when the history of the PKK is thoroughly researched. Colonialism alienated the Kurdish people from their history, essence, culture and identity in every aspect. That’s why the Kurdish people came to the brink of death. For this reason, the Turkish state and other colonialists were saying that the Kurdish problem is no more, we have buried it in the grave and it cannot grow. What did Reber Apo do? He made a very historic intervention. Rêber Apo’s intervention was not just for the Kurdish people. Maybe it was developed by the Kurdish people, but this intervention is a historical intervention. Developed for human history. In fact, all the interventions made in Kurdistan and the Kurdish people are universal. It is not limited to Kurds only. There is such a reality. Therefore, the intervention is a great intervention. It is history for humanity.
It was conscious that the PKK was laid at Newroz.
When did Rêber Apo make this intervention? He performed it at Newroz in 1973. It was conscious that the PKK’s foundation was laid in Newroz, because until then, no one knew what Newroz meant. Even the colonial had a different meaning. Everyone knew Newroz as happiness, a picnic and a normal holiday. Newroz has played a role in history not only for the Kurdish people but also for the peoples of the Middle East. He played a big role. The occupiers and colonialists deliberately removed Newroz from its meaning. He abolished Newroz so that the Kurds could not understand and integrate history with its roots. The aim was to eliminate the Kurds and Kurdistan. Rêber Apo revived the history that the colony destroyed, made forgotten and lost. In other words, he made the Kurdish people integrated with their history and roots. Thus, the liquidation and genocide against the Kurdish people was prevented. This was avoided. Since it was prevented, the Kurdish people gradually realized their unity with their own reality. Until then, it was not for himself. If the Kurdish people rose up on the brink of death, revived, struggled for democracy and freedom, and set an example for humanity today, it started with this. For this, they say, as the beginning is, so will the continuation. Since the initial step of Rêber Apo was very strong and built on the reality of history, society and humanity, the PKK developed and grew rapidly and today it has become a great hope. If he was fighting for democracy and freedom and if he was an example for humanity today, it started with this. For this, they say, as the beginning is, so will the continuation. Since the initial step of Rêber Apo was very strong and built on the reality of history, society and humanity, the PKK developed and grew rapidly and today it has become a great hope. If he was fighting for democracy and freedom and if he was an example for humanity today, it started with this. For this, they say, as the beginning is, so will the continuation. Since the initial step of Rêber Apo was very strong and built on the reality of history, society and humanity, the PKK developed and grew rapidly and today it has become a great hope.
‘Kurdistan is a colony’
Rêber Apo knew how to launch a move after the moment he said, ‘Kurdistan is a colony’. Once you say that, you can’t take a step back. Every step you take must be forward. This is what keeps people alive. Apart from this, there cannot be a different life, there is not even life left. That’s why I whispered secretly into a small group at Çubuk Dam in ’73, Rêber Apo says. He was paying that much attention. This is also a feature of Rêber Apo. If he wants to do something, he does it by assuming responsibility, takes a very serious approach and calculates the result, and develops moves in this way. When he thinks to make a move, he never initiates it if it is not time. When does it perform? Accounts; If he can develop the move, if he can get results, he will make his move accordingly. This requires seriousness and responsibility; requires questioning, reasoning, and examination. From the beginning, Rêber Apo has drawn conclusions from history based on questions and judgements.
Developed acceptance and rejection measures
Developed acceptance and rejection measures. In other words, what will the Kurds accept and what will they not accept? Again, who wants to ensure the freedom struggle under the name of Kurdistan, what will they accept and what will they not accept? Because there was such a situation that everything was intertwined; It was not clear what belongs to the Kurds, what belongs to humanity, what serves humanity and what it does not. The name of the life that existed in Kurdistan was life, but it was eliminating life, bringing death. Therefore, it is necessary to clarify them. Rêber Apo determined and developed the criteria to be accepted and not accepted from the very beginning. On this basis, publicity developed openness. So what, how will you accept, why won’t you accept what you won’t accept? He got them. Thus he developed principles for the Movement and the people. This principle should also be completely clear to you and your public. This is Rêber Apo,
Rêber Apo’s entire struggle is about truth
When Rêber Apo intervened in history in Kurdistan, he knew he was going against the current world. Because the existing world had made Kurdistan piece by piece and it was carrying out a policy of genocide in Kurdistan. Maybe they used to say that there were Kurds, but there were no Kurds. They were pursuing a policy that nothing should happen in the name of Kurdistan and the Kurds, should not be spoken. The policy carried out towards Kurdistan and the Kurdish people in the world has not been carried out against any country. It can’t even be said to be colonial. This is one aspect. Besides, there is beyond. Kurdistan is not only a colony of some states; Kurdistan is the colony of the world. That is the reality and that is how it should be understood. If you touch on Kurdistan and say that freedom and struggle should develop in Kurdistan, then you are accepting the death penalty. Because the world says you are gone. You say I exist, I will exist. What is this? This is a great contradiction between you and the current world. To defend the struggle for democracy and freedom in Kurdistan is to oppose the world that carries out a colonial and genocide policy. When you start, you accept the death penalty. For this reason, the policy carried out against the Movement and Rêber Apo since its foundation is a policy of destruction. This is the reason why it is desired to develop such isolation, conspiracy and concept, liquidation and genocide against Rêber Apo and the PKK. Rêber Apo took the truth as a basis for this. Rêber Apo’s entire struggle is about truth. Therefore, he understands the reality of the enemy well. What kind of policy is the enemy imposing against the Kurdish society, what will this policy bring for the Kurdish people and society? Since he understood this well, the genocide was based on how he should stand against the policy of destruction and get results. He saw that the Kurdish problem was not like the problem of other countries and peoples. He realized there was a big problem. It’s like going against the given world.
Such big problems cannot be solved with weak ideas, weak leadership, weak organizations and weak militants. In order to be a party that leads freedom and to achieve its goal, you will develop a strong idea, chairman, party, struggle, method and style so that you can carry out the struggle for democracy and freedom in Kurdistan and achieve your goal. If you do not develop a movement according to the reality of the enemies of Kurdistan, no matter how good your intentions are, no matter how hard you try, it will not bring results. Because the Kurdish people are a people who have fought many times in Kurdistan. It also paid great prices, but the developing movement and struggle continues for a year or two at most. It all ended in a massacre. Their heads were imprisoned, killed, exiled; The people were displaced and massacred. Rêber Apo drew good results from Kurdish history. It was necessary to establish a new movement in every aspect in order not to repeat what the Kurds experienced in history. Thus, if it does not develop a self-sacrificing leadership, a self-sacrificing party, a self-defeating militant and a method of struggle, it is necessary to establish and develop a party in Kurdistan; He saw that it was not possible for this party to fight for freedom and democracy and to get results. The fact that the PKK movement and militants are martyrs at the very beginning is connected with the reality of the Kurdish people’s enemy, the Kurdish society and people. Because the enemy has put the Kurdish society in such a situation that it is not recognized, it accepts the politics towards it as a destiny. He has lost the existing world and wants to gain a different world. The philosophy towards the Kurdish people, the philosophy of death, is very advanced. She doesn’t believe she’ll get up, be herself, and fight for herself.
A people heading towards death has become an example and hope for everyone today.
It’s true, maybe he has such feelings, but he doesn’t know how to realize them. You see, the conclusion he draws from history is that I cannot realize this feeling. In any case, the enemy said, “Leave everything, you will enter my service; And that’s not enough, you’ll see yourself as a Turk, only then will you be able to live.” Because Rêber Apo understood this reality well, he developed a struggle over it. In this way, the PKK was different from the very beginning. Parties established under the name of revolutionary and socialism in Kurdistan were also formed differently. That’s why it evolved. We look at the Kurdish history, whether the biggest movement continued for one year, at most two years, the result was liquidation. The movement developed by Rêber Apo has been going on for 50 years. It not only continued, but also set an example and hope for humanity that aims at freedom and democracy; capitalist modernity system, colonialist, It has also become a great fear for dictatorial states. It has reached such a level that, although they are enemies of the PKK, Rêber Apo and the Kurdish people, they saw that the PKK and the Kurdish people created by Rêber Apo are a great power. They cannot do without them. They see that they cannot do politics without them, no matter how hostile they are. Because in many ways their politics are taking a hit. This shows the reality of Rêber Apo and the struggle being waged. The world, which does not accept the PKK and the Kurds and is based on the policy of genocide as a whole, sees that they cannot do politics without Rêber Apo and the Kurds. Rêber Apo saved the Kurds from death, revived them and brought them to this level. A people heading towards death has become an example and hope for everyone today. These developments were provided by Rêber Apo and the PKK. A new leadership, a new party, a new militancy,
Only victory keeps the Kurdish people alive
In the philosophy developed by Rêber Apo, there is a complete lock on freedom and democracy. That is, he does not accept anything but victory. This is related to the enemy’s policy against the Kurds and the death of the Kurdish people as a result of this policy. Only victory will keep the Kurdish people alive. Other than that, nothing keeps the Kurds alive. Even if you make mistakes, fall short, get hit, this should be a reason for you to eliminate them. You must make these justifications for victory. The enemy always says you can’t do anything. In response, Rêber Apo said, “You have to fight for yourself, for the Kurdish people and people, under all circumstances, and develop your struggle through success.” The enemy is death to the Kurdish people; Rêber Apo offered a free life. So in death you will make yourself alive, you will create immortality for yourself, “You have no way of life outside of this,” he said. He developed the philosophy and line for the PKK and the Kurdish people on this basis.
No matter what you do for the Kurdish people, it is less
Another characteristic of Rêber Apo is that he is never convinced by anything. In other words, he does not say that this is the truth when he reaches some results with the struggle he has developed because he is based on the truth and running after the truth. It also says that a different truth is possible. Since his aim is truth, he is in a struggle to reach the truth. This also does not allow it to clog; always brings vitality, development and success. This is why he is constantly questioning. It is because of this reality that they could not defeat Rêber Apo and the PKK so much. Because whatever you do for the Kurdish people is less. You will work every day, you will develop moves for the Kurdish people every day, you will rebuild yourself so that you can keep the Kurdish people alive. For this you need to become immortal. Other than that, nothing is enough.
Nobody has anything to give you, because everybody is against you.
When Rêber Apo founded the PKK, he had no financial means, no tribe, no friends, no relationships. He had nothing. He developed the struggle in impossibility and poverty. He didn’t say, “I can’t fight, though.” It was never based on developing the struggle over the existing conditions, because such a condition or opportunity did not exist. That’s why the PKK was a movement of will, trust and faith from the very beginning. It developed on this basis and, since it did not develop on the ready-made one, it was based on construction. You will do it, you will enlarge what you do so that you can reach your goal. For this, it was based on standing against difficulties from the very beginning. He never resorted to ready means and comfortable means. Because he knew that there was no comfort in Kurdistan. Whatever you wanted to do, you had to do it yourself. Nobody has anything to give you, because everybody is against you. They want to eliminate you. You will trust yourself, you will fight for yourself, whatever you want to achieve, you will develop your own struggle, you will develop the solution yourself. If you take this as a basis, you can develop the struggle for democracy and freedom. These are all characteristics of Rêber Apo. Since Rêber Apo founded the PKK with these characteristics and laid the foundations firmly, the PKK has developed so much and has had an impact on world politics today. The forces of freedom and democracy are therefore based on Rêber Apo.
You will lift the weakened
What conclusions did Rêber Apo draw from history? You will lift the weak. It is difficult to lift the weak, but when he wakes up, he wakes up big. There was no people who fell more than the Kurdish people, they did not even have a degree. They had lowered the Kurdish woman more. Because the system carried out in the world was a system that was carried out with a male mentality. Power was formed on this basis. This government, this mentality has developed a great cruelty on the Kurdish people. It was based on genocide. Both this policy was carried out against Kurdish women and the politics of men were being carried out. For this reason, Rêber Apo took care of the Kurdish people and Kurdish women, since it was based on taking the responsibility from the very beginning. This movement therefore became the people’s and women’s movement. If it had not been based on this at the beginning, this movement would have been like any other movement.
PKK militant has no material possessions
Rêber Apo reveals all aspects of his childhood life in the village. He does not resolve this for no reason, because in the village society -the families also live in this village society-, the current mentality and personality are based on the male mentality. For this reason, he does not accept the persecution in the village, both for himself and for women. He develops his fellowship mainly with children and women. In other words, with those who have no contradictions and can comrade with. He built the PKK on these features. For this reason, a clean life and a strong comradeship developed in the PKK. Since it was based on the historical origin of the Kurdish people and humanity, it was based on sociality. The life built in the PKK is therefore social, communal and democratic. The life that developed in the PKK developed differently from other movements. PKK militants have no material possessions. Let me give an example from myself. I have been involved since its establishment; I have nothing. I have a dress and a gun. A friend who has just joined the movement is like me. So there is no difference between me and him. Developed by Rêber Apo. Therefore, those created here do not exist in any movement, they are different. It developed entirely with the mentality of Rêber Apo. The foundation of the PKK was developed through Kurdish history, society and roots. Because the Kurdish people have experienced and made great revolutions. Therefore, the social community is strong in the Kurdish people. For this reason, sociality is strong in Rêber Apo as well. It developed entirely with the mentality of Rêber Apo. The foundation of the PKK was developed through Kurdish history, society and roots. Because the Kurdish people have experienced and made great revolutions. Therefore, the social community is strong in the Kurdish people. For this reason, sociality is strong in Rêber Apo as well. It developed entirely with the mentality of Rêber Apo. The foundation of the PKK was developed through Kurdish history, society and roots. Because the Kurdish people have experienced and made great revolutions. Therefore, the social community is strong in the Kurdish people. For this reason, sociality is strong in Rêber Apo as well.
No one has developed dialectics as much as Rêber Apo.
Rêber Apo’s struggle is based on the principle of developing a people in the struggle for democracy and freedom under all circumstances. It also got results and is successful. He created such a people in Kurdistan that today he is a lover of freedom and democracy under all circumstances. Because of this, those who carry out democracy and freedom take this people, Rêber Apo and the PKK as an example. Since the policy carried out against the Kurdish people is very cruel, the leadership and party militancy developed on the basis of responding to this policy, being able to oppose it, and keeping the Kurdish people alive like other peoples. This too is a dialectic. Rêber Apo is also very strong in dialectics. No one has developed dialectics as much as Rêber Apo. What did he say? You will think and do, you will do and think. You will run both together. One will not take priority over the other. no power, It cannot prevent a movement built on these foundations. The reason why they have not been able to get it until today is connected with this reality.
I can also give an example to better understand the reality of the PKK and Rêber Apo. Rêber Apo always lives on what is right and what is not in the service of democracy and freedom, as he always bases himself on the truth, pursues the truth, questions the truth, and considers it. He does not experience this only in the process of being awake. He even lives in his dreams. He says, “I dreamed one day; I’m in Halfeti. I am in such a bad place that the Turkish state and military surrounded me. I said, ‘How can I accept this? I would never make such a mistake, it is impossible for me to make such a mistake. So how do I stay in such a bad place where the enemy will surround me and I will be helpless? It’s probably a dream. Then I saw that it was a dream.” So even in his dreams he thinks of the people; comradeship, freedom and democracy, he thinks how to stand against the enemy and develop the popular movement. He is always thinking, questioning, sensitive and approaches with a great sense of responsibility. His approach to all problems is very serious. For this reason, it lives and sustains continuous development and success. It gets its source from here. What sense of responsibility does he have? How can he always be sensitive? What kind of style is it that the enemy cannot prevent this movement, so that it responds to the wishes of a people and responds to the wishes of a humanity in line with the wishes of the Kurdish people. What sense of responsibility does he have? How can he always be sensitive? What kind of style is it that the enemy cannot prevent this movement, so that it responds to the wishes of a people and responds to the wishes of a humanity in line with the wishes of the Kurdish people. What sense of responsibility does he have? How can he always be sensitive? What kind of style is it that the enemy cannot prevent this movement, so that it responds to the wishes of a people and responds to the wishes of a humanity in line with the wishes of the Kurdish people.
What emotion, understanding, character, and even what effort was it that you took your hand in the Kurdistan Freedom Struggle in a process where almost nothing was done on behalf of the Kurds and Kurdistan under any circumstances?
During the years we went to university, the effect of real socialism was very strong on both young people and society. We were also in search of democracy and freedom, and we were searching. There were many struggles, too, which were affecting. Such a quest and research brought us to Rêber Apo. By getting to know Rêber Apo, we got to know ourselves, the truth of our society, our people and our enemy. Ours was a research until that time, a search, but we could not reach a conclusion. When we got to know Rêber Apo, we achieved results, we gained clarity, and determination developed. We saw clarity and determination in Rêber Apo’s approaches. We understood that Rêber Apo was developing a historical intervention. Not only for the Kurdish people and people. Although they developed it personally, we saw that it actually developed an intervention for humanity, because if you carry out an intervention in Kurdistan, To want to develop the struggle for freedom and democracy in Kurdistan means shaking the foundations of the world. The world developed through the Middle East. The basis of this world is the Middle East. Everything started and developed here. In the Middle East, too, Kurdistan is fundamental. Because the Kurdish people had a great place in the revolutions around the world. He has given everything to the service of humanity. The contribution of the Kurdish people is great for the world to reach its present level. The Kurdish people have served this world, this humanity, but the world built on the male mentality denies the Kurds and accepts the absence of the Kurds. This is a big contradiction. Rêber Apo made us grasp this contradiction. Kurdish people; was cut off from its history, culture and essence. They developed this policy to complete the genocide. You cannot eliminate a people without developing them. from its history, culture, language, he was moving towards death because he was uprooted, uprooted from his values. Interfering with this means intervening not only in the Middle East, but in the world. Rêber Apo says that if the Kurdistan Revolution takes place, it will have even greater consequences than the French Revolution. This is a reality. Because Kurdistan is the foundation of the Middle East, and the Middle East is the foundation of the world. If you create development on the basis of freedom and democracy in Kurdistan, it will create it not only in the Middle East, but also in the world. Therefore, the struggle in Kurdistan is not like the struggles in other countries. It is a struggle that will create change all over the world. If both friend and foe cannot conduct politics without the PKK today, this is related to reality. With this intervention, Rêber Apo integrated the relationship of the Kurdish people with its history and roots. He was moving towards death because he was deprived of his values. Interfering with this means intervening not only in the Middle East, but in the world. Rêber Apo says that if the Kurdistan Revolution takes place, it will have even greater consequences than the French Revolution. This is a reality. Because Kurdistan is the foundation of the Middle East, and the Middle East is the foundation of the world. If you create development on the basis of freedom and democracy in Kurdistan, it will create it not only in the Middle East, but also in the world. Therefore, the struggle in Kurdistan is not like the struggles in other countries. It is a struggle that will create change all over the world. If both friend and foe cannot conduct politics without the PKK today, this is related to reality. With this intervention, Rêber Apo integrated the relationship of the Kurdish people with its history and roots. He was moving towards death because he was deprived of his values. Interfering with this means intervening not only in the Middle East, but in the world. Rêber Apo says that if the Kurdistan Revolution takes place, it will have even greater consequences than the French Revolution. This is a reality. Because Kurdistan is the foundation of the Middle East, and the Middle East is the foundation of the world. If you create development on the basis of freedom and democracy in Kurdistan, it will create it not only in the Middle East, but also in the world. Therefore, the struggle in Kurdistan is not like the struggles in other countries. It is a struggle that will create change all over the world. If both friend and foe cannot conduct politics without the PKK today, this is related to reality. With this intervention, Rêber Apo integrated the relationship of the Kurdish people with its history and roots. It means intervening not only in the Middle East, but in the world. Rêber Apo says that if the Kurdistan Revolution takes place, it will have even greater consequences than the French Revolution. This is a reality. Because Kurdistan is the foundation of the Middle East, and the Middle East is the foundation of the world. If you create development on the basis of freedom and democracy in Kurdistan, it will create it not only in the Middle East, but also in the world. Therefore, the struggle in Kurdistan is not like the struggles in other countries. It is a struggle that will create change all over the world. If both friend and foe cannot conduct politics without the PKK today, this is related to reality. With this intervention, Rêber Apo integrated the relationship of the Kurdish people with its history and roots. It means intervening not only in the Middle East, but in the world. Rêber Apo says that if the Kurdistan Revolution takes place, it will have even greater consequences than the French Revolution. This is a reality. Because Kurdistan is the foundation of the Middle East, and the Middle East is the foundation of the world. If you create development on the basis of freedom and democracy in Kurdistan, it will create it not only in the Middle East, but also in the world. Therefore, the struggle in Kurdistan is not like the struggles in other countries. It is a struggle that will create change all over the world. If both friend and foe cannot conduct politics without the PKK today, this is related to reality. With this intervention, Rêber Apo integrated the relationship of the Kurdish people with its history and roots. He says that if the Kurdistan Revolution takes place, it will have even greater consequences than the French Revolution. This is a reality. Because Kurdistan is the foundation of the Middle East, and the Middle East is the foundation of the world. If you create development on the basis of freedom and democracy in Kurdistan, it will create it not only in the Middle East, but also in the world. Therefore, the struggle in Kurdistan is not like the struggles in other countries. It is a struggle that will create change all over the world. If both friend and foe cannot conduct politics without the PKK today, this is related to reality. With this intervention, Rêber Apo integrated the relationship of the Kurdish people with its history and roots. He says that if the Kurdistan Revolution takes place, it will have even greater consequences than the French Revolution. This is a reality. Because Kurdistan is the foundation of the Middle East, and the Middle East is the foundation of the world. If you create development on the basis of freedom and democracy in Kurdistan, it will create it not only in the Middle East, but also in the world. Therefore, the struggle in Kurdistan is not like the struggles in other countries. It is a struggle that will create change all over the world. If both friend and foe cannot conduct politics without the PKK today, this is related to reality. With this intervention, Rêber Apo integrated the relationship of the Kurdish people with its history and roots. creates in the world. Therefore, the struggle in Kurdistan is not like the struggles in other countries. It is a struggle that will create change all over the world. If both friend and foe cannot conduct politics without the PKK today, this is related to reality. With this intervention, Rêber Apo integrated the relationship of the Kurdish people with its history and roots. creates in the world. Therefore, the struggle in Kurdistan is not like the struggles in other countries. It is a struggle that will create change all over the world. If both friend and foe cannot conduct politics without the PKK today, this is related to reality. With this intervention, Rêber Apo integrated the relationship of the Kurdish people with its history and roots.
Cause we had a quest
We did not know the reality of our country and our people until we did not know Rêber Apo. We had a quest. We wanted to understand and take part in socialism, freedom and democracy, but we did not know how to take part, how to wage this struggle. During the period when we became associated with Rêber Apo, our searches led to resolution and clarification. In this process, we have grasped the reality of ourselves, the people and the enemy. Determination develops when you understand the reality of yourself and the society you belong to, and when you understand what the enemy has led to the society and what it has led you to. Either you will deny yourself completely, you will give up everything, or you will oppose the policy being carried out against you and your people. It was not possible for us to give up, because we had a quest. A person who is in a quest and who comes to a conclusion with this search cannot take a step back, he takes a step forward. If we’ve stepped forward, that’s why. We took a very strong stance the moment we became aware of the policy carried out towards our people, us and the society. A great grudge, a strong rejection developed. Rêber Apo showed how this dissent can be channeled. Because as soon as it is developed, it can reach its goal, it made us grasp this path. It made us understand his theory, ideology, politics, organization, militancy, working method, style and tempo. This is how the step was taken. It made us understand his militancy, working method, style and tempo. This is how the step was taken. It made us understand his militancy, working method, style and tempo. This is how the step was taken.
After meeting Rêber Apo, when he talked for hours about the history of Kurdistan and Kurdish society, I was confused because I realized that what I had known until then was not true. That’s when I got involved with the truth. I have said before; I always consider myself indebted. In any case, I want to meet my debt. Who introduced me to Rêber Apo? It was Heval Kemal Pir. He was neither Kurdish nor Kurdistani. For this, I consider myself indebted to Kemal Pir. This is my reality. We reached Rêber Apo while we were under the influence of socialism, during the period of our research and as a result of these searches, we got to know Rêber Apo, we got to know the reality of ourselves and our people.
In order not to betray your dreams…
It was important that we understand how to revolutionize, how we do it. There was someone who served it. What was it? In 1968, the youth movement developed in the world. It started in France, spread to many countries; It also spread to Turkey. Again on this date, the feminist movement developed. Again on this date, a movement based on ecology developed. These three movements were very important. These movements did not only develop against the capitalist system, but also against real socialism. Because up to this time, the existing socialism had an effect, there was hope. A ground of socialism was created for those who took democracy and freedom as the basis. It gave morale and confidence. They saw that the socialist system established against the capitalist system could not answer their hopes either. They even saw that it resembled capitalism in many aspects. Not only against capitalism, not to betray your dreams, They also opposed real socialism. This woman, ecologist and youth movement turned to an inquiry. It revealed a new mentality, a new culture; developed new measures. Therefore it was very important. The effect of this was reflected on us as well. It was especially effective on Rêber Apo. So much truth, a free life, a democratic life was based on that, she saw that the existing socialism was not the answer. If the PKK was not initially founded like leftist, socialist parties, it is because of this. Due to the influence of these movements, the movement developed differently. The existing socialism saw that it was not the answer. If the PKK was not initially founded like leftist, socialist parties, it is because of this. Due to the influence of these movements, the movement developed differently. The existing socialism saw that it was not the answer. If the PKK was not initially founded like leftist, socialist parties, it is because of this. Due to the influence of these movements, the movement developed differently.
Vietnam’s influence
In addition to these movements, the effect of the Vietnam War was experienced in the world. It has had an effect on us as well. They were also an oppressed people. They opposed occupation and colonialism. We saw that our conditions were the same. We thought that if they are fighting for freedom and democracy against a state like America, we can fight too. This was also effective. There was the Palestinian Movement in the Middle East, it was fighting a great struggle, it was making an impact. The Palestinian Movement and its people were just like us. This was also effective. If Palestine was fighting for itself, we could also fight.
The struggle for democracy and socialism in Turkey’s youth
The effect of all these was also effective on the youth of Turkey. The youth in Turkey also started to fight for democracy, freedom and socialism. For this, they were taking actions, developing an organization and having discussions. There was a very lively atmosphere. There were great discussions. This strengthened the current search. These also served. There were many movements including Deniz Gezmiş, Mahir Çayan, İbrahim Kaypakkaya, Hikmet Kıvılcımlı and Mihri Belli. All this was leading to awakening, developing responsibility. We had to protect our people and develop a struggle for our people. If a clarity, a determination developed, if we decided to develop a struggle, we came to a conclusion with the effect of these.
In the first processes, we did not have an approach to establish a different organization, a different Kurdistan. This developed later. At first, we wanted to carry out this struggle together with the people of Turkey and the Turkish left, but after we saw that they had nationalism and that they approached us and the Kurdish people in this way, we realized that we could not develop the struggle together. That’s why we decided to develop a struggle in Kurdistan. Although we took this decision, Rêber Apo never broke away from the Turkish left organization and the people of Turkey. It was always based on them. In other words, it was based on how we could develop a struggle with them. There was a reason for that. Because when Rêber Apo was still alone, there were Heval Kemal Pir and Haki Karer and he made a decision together with them. These friends were neither from Kurdistan nor from Kurds. There was no movement, not even an opportunity. They sided with Rêber Apo without hesitation. This was very important. Such a situation has never been seen in any movement. Another feature of Rêber Apo and the PKK is this aspect. Although Rêber Apo was not a Kurd or a Kurdistani, these two friends who stood by him without hesitation always took it as a basis in the establishment and struggle of the PKK. In fact, when Haki Karer was martyred, he said “I lost a half of me, it was my secret soul, how will I keep Haki Karer alive”. It was based on that. The PKK was founded on this basis. This is why we say the PKK is the party of martyrs, because there is a great martyrdom at the foundation of the PKK’s foundation. He always took the PKK as a basis in its struggle. In fact, when Haki Karer was martyred, he said “I lost a half of me, it was my secret soul, how will I keep Haki Karer alive”. It was based on that. The PKK was founded on this basis. This is why we say the PKK is the party of martyrs, because there is a great martyrdom at the foundation of the PKK’s foundation. He always took the PKK as a basis in its struggle. In fact, when Haki Karer was martyred, he said “I lost a half of me, it was my secret soul, how will I keep Haki Karer alive”. It was based on that. The PKK was founded on this basis. This is why we say the PKK is the party of martyrs, because there is a great martyrdom at the foundation of the PKK’s foundation.
It is based on internationalism.
If a strong nationalism has developed in the history of a people, if the people have hurt each other a lot, and if this has not developed in the PKK, if the PKK has not developed hostility towards the people of Turkey; If the Turkish state wanted to strengthen racism and perpetrate massacres between the Kurdish and Turkish people and failed, it is related to the founding years of the PKK. The beginning is with Rêber Apo, Kemal Pir and Haki Karer. Kemal Pir and Haki Karer founded the movement. There is such a strong foundation. Racism has been preempted from the very beginning. Therefore, racism did not develop. The movement is an international movement in its early stages; was founded on this basis. Therefore, it has had a great impact on society and humanity. If democracy and libertarians are based on Rêber Apo and the PKK, it is for this reason. Because they see that it is very clean. There is no racism, all peoples, cultures, religions, includes identities. Just as he sees himself as responsible to the Kurdish people, he lives with this responsibility towards all peoples. In other words, Rêber Apo developed the Democratic Nation in those processes. It’s not the current situation. Then he brought it to this level, he developed his theory and ideology. Therefore, it considers itself responsible to all peoples and wants to fulfill its responsibilities. This is a reality of Rêber Apo and the PKK. This is why the PKK has grown so much. This is a reality of Rêber Apo and the PKK. This is why the PKK has grown so much. This is a reality of Rêber Apo and the PKK. This is why the PKK has grown so much.
Feminine militancy from the start
Rêber Apo left a very strong impression on people with his approach and the style he used while he was developing this movement. It further strengthened the feelings of freedom and democracy. He took his research and questioning to a higher level. He was developing such a style. When he started talking, you wanted to start the fight. Such an impression created such a feeling in people. He had a good grasp of the enemy’s policy against the people and the individual. Thus, the feeling of opposing the enemy, of fighting, of taking revenge was developing. Therefore, militancy in the early periods is self-sacrificing. Sacrifice, courage and determination are very powerful. Today, if great self-sacrifice and courage are displayed in Zap, Metîna, this is the basis. It developed from this foundation and reached this level.
